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Cold|Heat
21.09.2004 um 17:42 QuoteProfileSend PM

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Aww! When the first Mark XIII´s where only delivered in 1919/20 thats of course a problem :_(. I really loved this tank from its look.
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Meadow
21.09.2004 um 18:55 QuoteProfileSend PM


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*cough* Back on topic...

What sort of fighting did the Danish troops do against the Russians? Mobile? Trench warfare?
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irwin_rommel
05.01.2005 um 21:18 QuoteProfileSend PM

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If i could mod i would but i can't, sorry, fedt potientale ellers

Actuly there were several thousands danish troops that were forced to join the german warmachine
all of the from southern Jutland (becourse of what happend in 18. hvidkål and yes most of them were send to the eastern front but many were fighting on the western front to.
Of course they used German equbment(?)
Prove? take to Århus and vist "mindeparken" and you will see alot more than 200 soldiers(most of them peasants)


 
Jagdpanther
05.01.2005 um 21:52 QuoteProfileSend PM

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Yes, but you fail to realize the areas the Danes were coming from (Southern Jutland or Nordschleswig as Germans call it) were German at the time, thus the Danes were - as German ditizens - drafted into the German armed forces. I don't want to cultivate the impression that poor Danish nationals were kidnapped by evil Germans and made to fight for them... those were simple recruits just like everyone else.
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Meadow
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'Simple recruits' in the same sense that, say, French people forced to fight the British by the Germans would be?

Just because the land belongs to another country, doesn't mean the people lose their nationality.

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Jagdpanther
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No, no - wrong. It's not as if the Danish were enemies of the Germans and friends of the French, is it? They were drafted as citizens of Germany to fight in Germanys wars, just like everyone else who was a German citizen at the time. These men were treated like everyone else in Germany at the time. Coming to that, there were more minorities in Germany at the time who fought for us regardless, Poles for example.
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Bill Kilgore
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Here a Map of Schleswig Holstein in 1914: http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.d...ein%201914+.jpg

http://www.dhm.de/lemo/forum/kollek...2/zusammen.html

and after 1920:

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In ww1 Denmark was official neutral but infakt Allied with all the fighting countries by suppleing (selling) cheap food to the Germans, French and dont to forget The brits. And you are right on some points, yes they were citizen in DE at that time but minorities isnt a half a country with over 100.000(maby even more) men, women, and children in(take a look at the little map, we had to Hamburg and maby even more).
The Prussians(Prussia:North Germany) only won in 1864 becourse of the austrians helped them.
And Prussia filded Holstein and slesvig up with real german citizen who voted for Germany.
First after the First WW did DK get land to Dybøl, becourse to many Germans as last time there were a voting(?)
And no Meadow i havnt been in Occupation Museum in Aarhus couse is simply cant find the time for it(and im sitting here and writting to forum ????????????????????????????????)

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Be that as it may, Schleswig and Holstein were in their majority German, not Danish, although they were part of the Danish kingdom until 1864. Only the parts that were German till 1920 had a Danish majority, but were parts of Schleswig nonetheless and therefore fell first to Prussia and then to Germany.
About Denmark being able to defeat Prussia on its own in 1864: I strongly doubt that! Denmark had only a small army which was equipped with obsolete weapons and most certainly not as highly trained as the Prussian army with their new rifled and breechloading weapons. The only thing in which the Danes were ahead of the German armed forces was the navy: Prussia had only a few elderly frigates, while Denmark had several ironclads like the battleship Rolf Krake. But Austrian ships also intervened, only think of the Battle at Helgoland, and in the end the German armies easily overwhelmed the Danish forces.
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Marmocet
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I realize that this is a WWI site, but I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about the Danes who served in the German Army during WWII, or knows of any good links with any information about them. There is almost no information about this topic published in English, little that I can find in German, and my Danish is not good enough yet to do any research in that language.

So far I have found out that there were between 8,000 and 12,000 Danes who volunteered and served in various units in the German Army (Wehrmacht, but usually Waffen SS), and that of them, only one out of every five was from the German-speaking minority. What I am trying to find out is what encouraged these men to serve, and what the attitude of the Danes was towards National Socialism and its various ideological aims. The official Danish version of events at this time strikes me as idealized and revisionist to the point that it probably ammounts to mythology.
 
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All I know is there was Freikorps Danmark - a group of Waffen SS soldiers who fought the Bolsheviks.

I compare the foreign German army troops with the opposite of the Spanish Civil War - to the people that signed up, they were getting an adventure far from home to fight communism.
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my parents know someone who served in Frikorps Danmark/freikorps Dänemark, nice guy as far as they tell... lost his leg in Ussr.
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