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'lo, I have some questions about several nations equipment, airforce and tanks. You can be shure I searched very well using Google and consorts, but this things I really can't find.
-Turkish LMG (an MG like the Gunners got in BF1918)
-Austro-Hungarian LMG
-Russian LMG
-most used recon plane of the Belgian army (the French Dorand AR.I?)
-most used fighter of the Belgian army (Sopwith Camel?)
-most used Russian recon plane, fighter plane and bomber (did they use bombers or did they already lose by then?)
-most used Austro-Hungarian planes (see above)
-did the Turks use planes - I think not - and if yes, wich (see above)
-Belgian heavy artillery (+/- 150mm)
I need this info to help The Great Trench War as historician. I cannon find it either in books or on the net. Maybe I shouldn't only read Dutch books :p
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Oops, actually it was me who posted this one. My bro didn't logout with his account, and normally my account is always logged on, so...
It would be cool if someone posts some pictures, too.
[Editiert von Col. Fokkhof am 29.Aug.2004 um 19:14]
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| Pie4Peace hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -most used Austro-Hungarian planes (see above) |
most Austro-Hungarian planes were license produced German models or they were based on German fuselages..
for example:
Oeffag Albatros D III
Aviatik Berg D I
Hansa Brandenburg D I
Phönix D I - D III (completely Austrian concept)
Lloyd C V (Hungarian type - used by Poland after WWI)
i think most types used water-cooled in-line engines....they hardly used rotary engines.
| Zitat: | | -did the Turks use planes - I think not - and if yes, wich (see above) |
yep...they mainly used "second hand" planes of the Germans, like Halberstadt biplanes.
there's also a thread about this, in German, actually...
http://www.battlefield1918.de/history/120/
hope, i could help you out a little
this site is also a good reference: http://www.wwiaviation.com/toc.shtml
[Editiert von Cpt. Sentenza am 29.Aug.2004 um 19:45]
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Thanks! You really helped me out, man
Well, this rests:
-Turkish LMG (an MG like the Gunners got in BF1918)
-Austro-Hungarian LMG
-Russian LMG
-most used recon plane of the Belgian army (the French Dorand AR.I?)
-most used fighter of the Belgian army (Sopwith Camel?)
-most used Russian recon plane, fighter plane and bomber (did they use bombers or did they already lose by then?)
-Turkish bomber (1917)
-Belgian heavy artillery (+/- 150mm)
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Turkish LMG (an MG like the Gunners got in BF1918) |
German MG 08/15
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Austro-Hungarian LMG |
The AH army didn't have a light MG, only the heavy Schwarzlose M.7/72
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Russian LMG |
As well, no lMG. Only the heavy Pulemyot Maxima PM1910
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -most used recon plane of the Belgian army (the French Dorand AR.I?) |
Caudron G.III
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -most used fighter of the Belgian army (Sopwith Camel?) |
Hanriot HD.1 (all Belgian aces flew this plane)
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -most used Russian recon plane, fighter plane and bomber (did they use bombers or did they already lose by then?) |
Recon: Anatra-DS and -DSS
Fighter: Nieuport 17 (the only home-made fighter was the Sikorsky S-16 of 1915/16)
Bomber: Ilya Murometz (arguably the best bomber of the war: Take a look)
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -most used Austro-Hungarian planes (see above) |
Recon/light Bomber: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I
Fighter: Aviatik-Berg D.I
Bomber: Hansa-Brandenburg G.I
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -did the Turks use planes - I think not - and if yes, wich (see above) |
Fighter: Halberstadt D.V
Recon/light Bomber: Albatros C.III
Bomber: none
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Belgian heavy artillery (+/- 150mm) |
Belgium's heaviest field guns were various types of 120mm (Schneider M11 & M07, Baquet M90)
If you need pictures or data, please ask.
Team BF1918 expects to be included into the credits... 
[Editiert von Parabellum am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:13]
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Yeah, you helped me out big time!
I can find the pictures myself with those names. Two questions:
-Wasn't the Caudron G.III a bomber?
-Did the Turks use the Ehrhardt as armoured car?
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Wasn't the Caudron G.III a bomber? |
Officially it was used for reconnaissance, artillery spotting and ground support, so bombing was only a secondary job. The Belgian Air Service used 84 of these.
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Did the Turks use the Ehrhardt as armoured car? |
AFAIK they didn't have any purpose-built armoured cars, only a handfull of MG-armed touring cars.
[Editiert von Parabellum am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:15]
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Did the Belgians have bombers?
(can you give me a picture of those touring cars)
[Editiert von Col. Fokkhof am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:19]
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Yes, the twin-engined Caudron G.IV was used as the primary Bomber of the Belgian Air Service. It could carry about 460lb of bombs.
I even found some pictures of a model in Belgian colours:
And here's the Hanriot HD.1 in Belgian colours:
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | (can you give me a picture of those touring cars) |
Sorry, I don't have any... 
[Editiert von Parabellum am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:28]
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Lol, I only see commercial of www.fortunecity.com
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better?
Btw: the Hanriot has the colour scheme of Andre Emile Alfons de Meulemeester, Belgium's second highest ace (11 victories).
[Editiert von Parabellum am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:31]
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yeah, thanks!
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Okay, a few more things:
-Turkish fieldgun (like the 77mm and the 75mm)
-Turkish artillery (150 mm or something like that)
-nicknames for: Belgian, Turkish, Russian and Austrian troops
-possible special units for a strategy game (very special abilities) for: Russian and Austrian troops (Belgians have got a 'franc tireur' and the Turks a Camel Rider)
And a picture of the Schneider M11 would be nice, too.
(btw: belgium's highest ace is Willy Coppens with 37 kills)
[Editiert von Col. Fokkhof am 29.Aug.2004 um 21:37]
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| Parabellum hat folgendes geschrieben: |
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Austro-Hungarian LMG |
The AH army didn't have a light MG, only the heavy Schwarzlose M.7/72
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Russian LMG |
As well, no lMG. Only the heavy Pulemyot Maxima PM1910
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Didn't the austrian and the russian army buy a few madsen M1904 light machineguns before the war started?
http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/mgun_madsen.htm
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: |
-nicknames for: Belgian, Turkish, Russian and Austrian troops
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for austrians... hmm i don't know any word from the entente, maybe "Kamerad Schnürschuh" so the germans called the austrian troops.
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: |
possible special units for a strategy game (very special abilities) for: Russian and Austrian troops (Belgians have got a 'franc tireur' and the Turks a Camel Rider)
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for austrians: maybe "Kaiserjäger": special infantry troop who can cross mountains who are obstacles for all others, like in C&C ZH the offroad-bikes from the GLA. Maybe you can add this bonus for the artillery too.
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Turkish fieldgun (like the 77mm and the 75mm) |
Various types of German 77mm field guns: M03/10, FG96, FK17 (the second one is also the German field gun in BF1918!)
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -Turkish artillery (150 mm or something like that) |
Krupp 120mm M1905 and 150mm FH 13 howitzers.
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -possible special units for a strategy game (very special abilities) for: Russian and Austrian troops (Belgians have got a 'franc tireur' and the Turks a Camel Rider) |
- Austrians: The Kaiserjäger, Austria-Hungary's finest elite infantry. They were founded in 1816 in Tyrol as a single regiment. In 1895 their strength was increased to 4 Regiments. The Kaiserjäger were famous for being able to fight in any terrain, even in the deep snow and extreme temperatures of the high Alpes in winter.
- Russians: Cossacks, of course...!
| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | And a picture of the Schneider M11 would be nice, too. |
None in my archive, but I'll search for it...
| Asperagus hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Didn't the austrian and the russian army buy a few madsen M1904 light machineguns before the war started? |
I never heard about those in Austian services, but you are right: The Russian army bought large numbers during the 1904/05 Russo-Japanese War. So this would be a good lMG for Fokkhof.
[Editiert von Parabellum am 29.Aug.2004 um 22:31]
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lol, we had the same idea Para 
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | | -nicknames for: Belgian, Turkish, Russian and Austrian troops |
lol i started another thread about random nicknames, but i will just put the ones you asked for here
Turks='abdul' or 'gobbler' or 'jacko' or 'johnny' or 'johnny turk'
russian='russki'
belgian and austrian i have no clue about
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| Radetzky hat folgendes geschrieben: | | lol, we had the same idea Para |
The obvious idea!
Here are two photos of a 120mm M09 (similar to the M11) in Polish services in 1937, refitted with rubber tyres instead of the original steel wheels.
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Wow, thank you guys! Well, I seem to have everything. Eccept the Belgian and Austrian nicknames, but I'm sure someone knows that 
And I would really like it if someone could show me the Turkish armoured touring car. Or I can find it myself if you give the exact name.
[Editiert von Col. Fokkhof am 30.Aug.2004 um 09:17]
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i already said the austrian nickname: Kamerad Schnürschuh (= Comrade laced shoe)
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| Radetzky hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Comrade Tying shoe |
I think "lace-up shoe" is the right translation, but I'm not sure...
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i used google to translate it, but I'll proof it with a dictionary
update: you're right para, Schnürschuh = lace-up or laced shoe!
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And I found the Belgian one: piot
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