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While browsing the Landships site(http://www.landships.freeservers.com) I came across the different tanks that were in development at the end of the war and never saw action. I thought it would be great to see these tanks in action in BF1918. The ones I think would be great would be the massive german K-Wagen and the french FCM 2C. I wish the russians were in the mod so we could do the Mendelejev Tank and the giant wheeled Lebedenko Tank. All this mod would require is a couple of new models and maybe a couple of open maps. If someone could tell me a free modeling program that they use for BF1942 then I could give them a try. What do the rest of you guys think?
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Well, it's an open Project, so if you are able to create good lokking models of tose vehicles, why not, sounds like a lot of fun.
A freeware Tool for modeling is Gmax, just google it.
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Try this link
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Paris Outskirts - 1919
The German Offensive succeeds! Battered Entente troops retreat to the quiet outskirts of Paris, undisturbed since the near success of the von Shlieffen plan five years ago. Now, in early 1919, new and deadly weapon technologies do battle on the fields of France!
How's that for an FH 'Alpenfestung' style map?
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Secret Weapons of world war 1? As far as i know we have detailed plans and ideas for this scenario.
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Yes indeed. We could open our files for the open board...
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Please do that. Sounds very interresting.
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| Gamma hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Secret Weapons of world war 1? As far as i know we have detailed plans and ideas for this scenario. |
Just like an expansion pack built-in the game already  a Deluxe version .
I'd be useless but the idea is great though... Secret Weapons of World War I....
I can see it already happening: "Frontline 18 and Open-Project modders present: Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I."
[Editiert von [1st.] Sgt.H3nry3 am 16.Jul.2005 um 22:51]
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That title sounds good. Very good. Excellent. *something better*
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| Tirpitz hat folgendes geschrieben: | | That title sounds good. Very good. Excellent. *something better* |
Ok, I'll repeat it for you Tirpitz:
Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I, Battlefield 1918: Secret Weapons of World War I...
Muahahhahahaha... I can't wait...
EDIT: Sorry for double post, gotta reinstall Firefox...
[Editiert von [1st.] Sgt.H3nry3 am 17.Jul.2005 um 12:43]
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Hmm is this going to be one of the open project mods/addons?
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Freakish. Who knows? There might even had been a giant zeppelin gunship planned.
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Well I'd like to see the Russian Czar tank (pwnage ), the other Russian tank .
The Siemens-Schuckert R I to R VIII, Adlerhof 10.000 PS, Staaken 8301-series and 8303-series and the Staaken R VI. The Dornier Rs III and lots of other secret weapons
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| Waffenbaum hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Freakish. Who knows? There might even had been a giant zeppelin gunship planned. |
| Zitat: | | Well I'd like to see the Russian Czar tank (pwnage ) |
Kruger: Müller, Lauf! Es ist dabei, Sie zu zerquetschen! Stehen Sie auf!
Müller: uhh... was ist... passiert? .... *krrrrrrrrrr krt krt krt krt*
Kruger: Schnell! Los! Die Tzar-Panzer ist da!...
Müller: WAAAAHAAAAARRAAAAAAAAAARRGHHhhgghghhhhh!....... *splatter* *crush*
My German is improving! The only word I had to look up was 'crush' (zerquetschen). 
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| The_Mustard_Man hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Waffenbaum hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Freakish. Who knows? There might even had been a giant zeppelin gunship planned. |
| Zitat: | | Well I'd like to see the Russian Czar tank (pwnage ) |
Kruger: Müller, Lauf! Er ist dabei, Sie zu zerquetschen! Stehen Sie auf!
Müller: uhh... was ist... passiert? .... *krrrrrrrrrr krt krt krt krt*
Kruger: Schnell! Los! Der Tzar-Panzer ist da!...
Müller: WAAAAHAAAAARRAAAAAAAAAARRGHHhhgghghhhhh!....... *splatter* *crush*
My German is improving! The only word I had to look up was 'crush' (zerquetschen). |
very good! made just a little correction.
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L35 tested a wire-guided torpedo glider and on 23-2-1918 it also dropped an Albatross D III sucessfully, but the admiralty ominously decided height-climbers would have no need for cover. Even with the Oerlikon 20mm cannons they were no match for the british air force. Though only one fighter likely wouldn't amount to much, four or more may have made a difference.
Sometimes it does make you wonder why they didn't float over the trenches and bombard them...
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Don't forget that the main protection of Zeppelins in the later war was height and every pound of additional weight would reduce speed, climbing rate and maximum height. So adding escort fighters plus hangar and some kind of dropping installation would have added far more problems then it would solve!
Regarding the idea of bombing trenches: As Zeppelins needed to fly rather high to evade enemy fighters or anti-aircraft guns, their accuracy against point targets was awfully low. So dropping tons of bombs somewhere around trenches already well protected against artillery would be useless.
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But then again, what better place to test useless ideas than in a war? Take for example the German Wunderwaffen. Most were completely bonkers, the Maus and Ratte tanks, the Selbstorbfer(Can't bloody well look that word up) basicly the "Almost suicide jet" and whatnot. And WWI wasn't without it's share of utterly WEIRD gadgets. Some of which failed horribly, while others became modern day tanks and artillery. Trial and error, eh lads? It's what it's all about.
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you'r mixing up things
because most of the "wunderwaffen" were really good (means usefull) ideas
but to the tanks: 2 italien ones
2 geman ones
1-2 french
1 amerikan
some british
even one austrian
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the austrian:
british:
this one is uk/us:
us:
russia:
germany:
italy:
[Editiert von Kaiserjäger Goldi666666 am 19.Jul.2005 um 11:32]
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Yep this shabby piece of crap is definitly american
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another german one:
see also
and brittish ones:
see also
[Editiert von Kaiserjäger Goldi666666 am 21.Jul.2005 um 15:07]
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Are you sure that german one isn't a beutepanzer?
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| Zitat: | The A7V-U Sturmpanzerwagen
Impressed by the handling characteristics of the British rhomboid tanks (the majority of the armor deployed by German were captured machines), the OHL put in an order in March of 1917 to build an A7V which mimicked the British tanks. This was the A7V-U (the "U" standing for "umlaufende kette", loosely translating as "track runs around car"). Using the Holt chassis, it was modified into the basic shape of the British rhomboid. In comparison, the A7V-Us general appearance was of a Mk. IV but the hull shape was more "upright" than the "streamlined" British version. The sponsons were also set further back than on the British tank. Thirdly, the "turret" was very high and served as a weapon station, the machine gunner's seat being located inside. The commander and driver were positioned in the forward part of hull, just like the British rhomboids. The sponsons were just about an exact copy of the British tanks. Each of the two sponsons mounted one 5.7cm cannon in a socket mantlet. A gun port was located just behind the cannon. An access hatch was to be found on the rear of the sponson with a gun port set into the hatch. Scattered across the hull were more gun ports. Asides the two on the sponsons, one was to be found in the hull side, forward of the sponson while the "turret" has six ports (two in the front, two in the back, one on each side). It can be taken that these ports were for the gunners to poke their weapons thru and not the mountings as seen on the A7V. The only visible vision port is to be found on the side of the tank, one per side.
The overall weight of the A7V-U stood at 40 tons, its length was 8.38 meters, and its width was 4.69 meters. This compares to a weight of 29 tons, 8.05 meter length, and 3.89 meter width of the British Mk. IV "Male". Obviously bigger and heavier, the A7V-U was no doubt a sloth in motion. No specifications could be found on the speed nor the engine(s) used in the A7V-U. But if the same Daimler engines were mounted in the A7V-U, the fact that they would be pushing an added ten tons of weight, that would conclude that the speed, let along the reliability of the motors (already questionable with the A7V), would be very poor and not stand it well against the tanks it mimics.
The A7V-U prototype was ready for trials in the late summer of 1918. In these tests, several problems arose. The first was the fact that the tank tended to tip forward when it traversed rough ground. Perhaps the fact that the A7V-U was not as "streamlined" as the British rhomboids and also weight distribution within the tank (it may be that the engine(s) were mounted forward of the cannon stations due to the sponson positioning) caused this difficulty. Another problem, one the British had to contend with, was that the track runs on the upper part of the tank became clogged with mud and dirt, fouling the tracks. Yet another problem was the fact that the driver opposition with the A7V-U was 40% more severe than with the A7V. All this added up to cause the OHL, on September 12, 1918, to order work on the A7V-U stopped and the vehicle to be scrapped. |
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two russian ones:
source
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lol @ the last one
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Thanks for the link to the land ships web site Tally man!! http://www.landships.freeservers.com/
That was some great reading there. I learned a bunch about a subject that is very much growing on me.
I want some models now. (the kind you put together)
I will leave the mod modling up to you guys....but I'm your biggest fan!
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Yet an other tank (French this time):
I'd really like to pilot the excellent Fiat 2000 itialian tank.
And what about the Marienwagen?
[Edited by Badger[Fr] at 14.Apr.2006 and 16:34]
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