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My vote goes to staying on the BF2 engine. It's where most of your fans have gone, and this is definitely one of the mods I've been waiting for for a very long time. I will not buy another game that I have no interest in to play this mod, and I think most fans (minus the very hardcore) will agree. You may gain a new fanbase, but a majority of the old probably won't go along.
Battlefield 1918 has been and should still be a Battlefield game.
And a switch to RTS is not Battlefield 1918. You might as well change the name of the mod.
Leasing your own game engine can be very expensive and, unless you have a very dedicated team, probably not worth the price of entry.
My support definitely goes in to keeping BF1918-2 on BF2. You guys did great things with BF1942 (though I cannot say I agree with a few gameplay aspects) so I don't see what can be so limited with the BF2 engine.
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I completely agree with Johannes. Everybody here is looking forward to play BF1918/2 and I think indeed few are waiting for the mod to switch to a completely new game. Oh yes, you'll get me to buy a new game just for the mod, but I think I'll be one of the few  It's not cheap, you know...
Furthermore, you've already started working on BF1918/2, I think you should finish it Maybe you haven't got much yet, but you haven't got little either. If the devs are returning to their active status again, as you say, BF1918/2 will probably make progress much faster then before.
And as I see on the FH boards, they are working very hard on FH2 - since you already did some work together for the 1942 engine, why not for the BF2 one? They could perhaps help you out with some difficult parts...
If you want to get the team and the community motivated to support this engineswitch, I guess the first thing you need is playermodels... driving BF1918 vehicles in a BF2 uniform isn't really attractive you know ^^ yeah, the uniforms are maybe the hardest part, but why won't you do the hardest part first? Save the easiest things for the last 
Oh right, and maybe just remember how long and hard our dear devteam worked on BF1918 for the old engine...
[Editiert von Col. Fokkhof am 05.Apr.2007 um 11:19]
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As i said, the main problem with BF2 is that many guys in the team suffers on the last try .
We will see.
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Start small. What did you have in the first BF1918 release? Try to copy that into BF2. I think you had only two different guns for each team, no? What about that...
And don't rush things. If something isn't done, then don't start pushing to get it done for a PR release. You should work on a full release instead of showing minor releases with a few new things. We can wait
One or two BF1918/2 Dev-made maps with two armies (both armed with only two guns, and maybe a shovel and nades) without any tank would already attract many players Just a hint
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I would urge you all to move over to the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, according to what I've heard it's an extremely modable game, and it's very realistic and fun
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And a total flop if you count the selled copies .
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| Col. Fokkhof hat folgendes geschrieben: | Start small. What did you have in the first BF1918 release? Try to copy that into BF2. I think you had only two different guns for each team, no? What about that...
And don't rush things. If something isn't done, then don't start pushing to get it done for a PR release. You should work on a full release instead of showing minor releases with a few new things. We can wait
One or two BF1918/2 Dev-made maps with two armies (both armed with only two guns, and maybe a shovel and nades) without any tank would already attract many players Just a hint |
man if it was sooo easy we'd have done it allready
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I think you should go to the Crysis engine, with that long range view distance, destructible stuff, clouds, real timing day stuff, waves system etc... You could make a World War 1 simulator, imagine a squadron of Fokkers flying high above the trenches (and I mean high, not that stupid low dynamic of BF) dropping bombs into the trenches, or getting a wing clipped by a shot and spinning into the vegetation which gets destroyed. Or in the naval war, imagine you and other 15 players let's say, in a battleship, which is shaking with the waves, and battling roughly against the enemies which can be seen miles and miles away because of the long range view distance... You could even make destructible defence wire, like getting tanks to open a space through it and stuff like that...
Believe me, if you go to Crysis engine, it will require a lot of effort, but the results, will be more than superb!!!
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yeah but were do we get the modders for such a huge pile of work from?
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Crysis looks indeed incredible promising. I had last week the chance to be in Frankfurt for a 3 day visit in the Crytek studios. To be honest, this was the point wich remotivates me, to came back.
Otherwise the engine will cost us so much work. I am not that sure if it works.
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Well,I believe you should stay on the BF2 mod race.
BF2 can be very complicated near BF42,but it haves great bots,ironsights,awesome sounds and graphics,ragdoll (I love this!),have the bolt rifle code,looks easier to code....
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Hello gentlemen.
Good to see you guys are still alive! ^^
Anyway, I'd definately stick to Battlefield 2 if I were you.
Crysis sounds like a great option, a potential bestseller and moddable.
However, that would probably require a complete restart.
The first major release should come with a big bang, following with relatively big incremental upgrades.
If done correctly, the public ought to be hooked, and before it's popularity dips it should get an update.
[Editiert von SgtH3nry3 am 06.Apr.2007 um 20:31]
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lol When I read that Stalker didn't sell I rushed on over to amazon and put my order in, can't let good games like that go to waste, from what I've heard anyway.
If going BF2 will finish the team and going to Crysis will rejuvenate it afresh the decision there seems obvious, go Crysis.
Yeh, I'd buy a new game just to play the mod and if BF1918 boxed up their efforts and put it on the shelf I'd buy that too, not really that expensive for what you'd get out of it is it?
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In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to stick to the Battlefield 2 engine. Crysis looks indeed very promising, but keep in mind that Farcry multiplayer was a failure, and very few people played it, whereas there are still thousands of people playing BF 2, and Battlefield 1918 is well known among them.
Yet, I must admit that it is a hard decision to take, because it depends on whether Crysis multiplayer will be popular or not.
[Edited by Badger[Fr] at 08.Apr.2007 and 19:17]
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| Badger[Fr] hat folgendes geschrieben: | | In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to stick to the Battlefield 2 engine. Crysis looks indeed very promising, but keep in mind that Farcry multiplayer was a failure, and very few people played it, whereas there are still thousands of people playing BF 2, and Battlefiled 1918 is well known among them. |
Keep in mind that the main reason that FarCry MP was a failure is due to Ubi.com.
Ubi.com ruined most (potential) MP games, for instance Brothers in Arms.
EA might give them more freedom, perhaps it'll get a GameSpy-based server list knowing EA.
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Maybe the ranking system of BF2 should call more attention...
Althought,people who play BF2 are freaks.I heard that most of them cheat and use glitches everytime!
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Ranking for Mods is not possible, beside ABR.
Finally the desicion is made. Keep your breath you will need it to bash us for the descion.
You will get informed shortly.
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| Gamma hat folgendes geschrieben: | Ranking for Mods is not possible, beside ABR.
Finally the desicion is made. Keep your breath you will need it to bash us for the descion.
You will get informed shortly. |
Is ABR still feasible to continue with?
I heard some pretty nasty stories about them?!?
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*takes spiky trench club out of it's sack
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| Trench Tom hat folgendes geschrieben: | | *takes spiky trench club out of it's sack |
And promptly sits on it
Lets see what happens first.
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| Gamma hat folgendes geschrieben: | Ranking for Mods is not possible, beside ABR.
Finally the desicion is made. Keep your breath you will need it to bash us for the descion.
You will get informed shortly. |
As long as you're not trying to code a new game from scratch nor switching over to RTS, I'll be happy.
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nobody wants to code a game from scratch good god
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I know, Goldi, nodody said anything about making a game from scratch, we're not superhuman!
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OK, now I just want BF1918/2.
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I guess,is this mod for pro-gamers,i recommend FoW engine.Because,when the game(Frontlines:Fuel of War)released,i think it sells a millon..When they want to turn past,they dl your mod..
Edit:I think if you guys want,you can make your own game..
Look to Kaos Studios(Makers of Frontlines:Fuel OF War),They was a part of BF1942 makers team,and they was leave,and they are making their own game..
[Edited by Seyit Onbasi at 24.Apr.2007 and 09:25]
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What the hell... they are using my nick...
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